Tuesday, November 24, 2009

Mr. and Mrs. Hall discuss adding a second or third wife (repost for your enjoyment)

Mo love, Mo problems


During all the packing, sorting and tossing during these last few days, HBO's "Big Love" was playing in the background. This show is about polygamy or plural marriage. One man, Bill Paxton, is married to three wives ((L-R) Barb-first wife, Nikki-second wife, Margene-third wife). They all live this life, forming a family, calling this life "living the principle".

On the drive back, as I am wont to do, I took a mental trip down another path for the Hall Marriage. One that included adding a second and third wife to our family. I used the conflicts and plotlines from Big Love as an outline for my thoughts. It is a three hour drive. Lots of time to wax poetic. Mr. Hall always leans in while I talk. It is very sweet and tender.

First, in order for a plural marriage to survive, all parties must be willing to sacrifice their own personal needs for the greater good. There must be religion involved. It doesn't matter how much you believe in any alternative lifestyle, if you don't have an almighty God directing you, then you don't have sustainable motivation. Polygamy takes fortitude and renewable motivational. Without religion, the marriages will fail. Therefore, in order for us to become polygamous, we would have to step up our Christianity from interested and happy to obsessional and delirious.

Also, I believe, we would need to create a self sustaining family. I have read a lot on polygamous clans and the best ones, the ones that last, live off the land and are an agricultural society. I could do this, become a farmer's wife. Maybe. In the HBO show however, they are all supported by the husband's job. This is no good, it could come crashing down all around him and the family would be left bereft.

Second on the list, the husband must be of supreme quality. He must be unrelenting in his kindness, energy and devotion towards his wives. If the marriages are to thrive and grow, he must grow with each wife according to their needs. He must also be a facilitator and leader within the family as he will no doubt, be in charge of the lot. Well, in co-charge with the first wife.

The first wife is essential to success. She will be seen as the leader of the wives more so than the husband in a lot of ways. Again, I have read a lot about polygamous marriages and frankly, the husband often seems secondary to the every day needs of the wives. After all, the demands on him (making money, servicing other wives, actively directing a church of some sort) eats up his time. Hence the term of 'sister-wives'. The wives have their own family, a sub family of sapphic support.

This is why the first wife is so important. Most wives, in a single marriage, direct the various day to day doings of family life. They handle the organization of the family in terms of child care needs, organizing meals, cleaning of the house, negotiating the emotional needs of each family member, booking medical appointments et cetera. The first wife must be a proficient family manager, after all, with a second and third wife and their children, she manages them as well.

This is a lot of people to be organize.



I can say, it looks exceedingly difficult, living in a plural marriage. But I believe that Mr. Hall would be an excellent husband for such an arrangement. He was brought up a single mom who worked a lot and was basically in charge of two high maintenance sisters. Plus, he is a little bit older than me. He has as keen sense of women and how they operate. He also has a deft way of negotiating and supplying any needs they might have.

The first wife in the show, Barb, seems to be doing well. She could care take a little more but, meh.

First wife, very pretty curly hair, just like me


I would be an excellent first wife. Now that I have been married for about eight years, I have learned how to temper my emotional needs, how to smooth out sleep deprived feelings. I have learned how to respond and organize the needs of the entire household and create a warm and thriving family. I am a fully functioning partner in our success.

I would also be an excellent resource while choosing the second and third wife. I would have never picked, Nikki, as second wife. She is a spoiled prairie doll, unable to communicate her needs in a healthy way. Always scheming and manipulating. Not only is she not second wife material, but she is not any wife material.

Who in the hell picked her as second wife? I mean come on!


She would pose a problem for me, as a first wife. She is in her early thirties, same age as me. I would need ten years yet before I could handle the all the ages of the younger wives. The third wife from big love, Margene , SHE would be no problem whatsoever. But, yes, this type of arrangement would have to wait ten years, for me to be mature enough.

Margene is a doll


This is when, for the first time, Mr. Hall pipes up.

"TEN YEARS!! You realize I will be 50 years old at that point right?!, There's no way that would be a good thing, adding another wife and kids to the family."

By golly he's right. And really, there is absolutely no need for to complicate things with extra wives and children in this family.

I mean jeez, one wife is enough for everyone!!!

So that ends another side trip in the mental journey of Mrs. Hall :)


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GeologyJoe said...

ive never see the show but it sounds interesting.
the post was a good thought expirement.
two thoughts: i could never, or want to ever, juggle more than one woman. good grief. one is enough.
second: the husband would have to be a stallion to keep them all satisfied. while that sounds AWESOME up front, thougts of chaffing quickly come to mind.

good post HH

Cam@Journey Wildly said...

Priceless!

No adding wives to this crew either.

But, we're totally onboard with buying a big ass house and starting up a hippie commune!!

Lemme know...

Big Pissy said...

You really put a lot of thought into this, didn't you???? LOL

Great post! Great show!

I could not agree with you more about Nicki: who the hell chose her???? She's AWFUL!!!

Holly Hall said...

Geo Joe: Yes, I did enjoy thinking things through on this matter. And yes, juggling is a good word for what the husband does, it is not a quality arrangement for him.

and good lord the chaffage!!! :)

Cam: Well, if you do decide to form a comune, I'll come but um, all hippies must bath regularly!! :)

Pissy: Got your email, will respond soon :)-And thank you, I really enjoyed this post, I sort of started it as a joke but really, it turned out well

and yes WHAT THE HECK! Nicki?? REally? blah

ok :)

Cam@Journey Wildly said...

Of course, hygiene is a priority. I do not like stinky. No way. No psychedelic mushrooms either. The last thing I need is to have to go chasing a naked Bergman tripping his ass off, running through the woods thinking he is some sort of CoyoteGod.

Nicki is the antagonist. She is an integral part of this mixture. Somebody needs to do that hair for her though. Jeez. Makes me feel sorry for Bill, I mean, it's not like he didn't survive a defective space shuttle, and all those tornadoes, and now he has to deal with her hair???

Holly Hall said...

Cam: Yeah, nobody needs a naked Bergman, all freaking out.

AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THAT NICKI!!!!!!!


AND COME ON!!!! THE ANKLE LENGTH DENIM SKIRTS JUST KILL ME!! JUST KILL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

seriously, if she is shopping at coach and such, ENUFF WITH THE ANKLE LENGTH DEMIN SKIRTS AND RIDICULOUS HAIR!!!!

but, I only got through like 8 episodes of season one, maybe she loses the DUMB ANKLE LENGTH DEMIN SKIRTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

killing me, seriously!!

Big Pissy said...

So what you're saying is you hate the ankle length denim skirts? ;-)

Holly Hall said...

don't get me started Pissy, dammit, don't get me started!!!

:)

Slyde said...

i'm not sure i would rule Nikki out so fast...

have you ever seen the movie The Brown Bunny? i cant even look at her the same way after that one...

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